“I think to be a well-informed citizen in the 21st century, you need to know a little bit about this stuff [AI] because you want to be able to participate in the debates. You don’t want to be someone to whom AI is sort of this thing that happens to you. You want to be an active agent in the whole ecosystem,” he said.
In an interview with VentureBeat in San Francisco this week, Scott shared his thoughts on the future of AI, including facial recognition software and manufacturing automation. He also detailed why he’s “cautiously optimistic” about ways people will devise to use intelligent machines and said why he thinks Cortana doesn’t need a smart speaker to succeed.
However vital staying informed about the evolution of AI may be to the average person in the century ahead, Scott concedes it’s not an easy thing to do.
“It’s challenging because even if you’re a person with significant technical training, like even if you’re an AI practitioner, it’s sort of challenging to keep up with everything that’s going on. The landscape is evolving really rapidly,” he said.
Technologists who make and use AI today also have a duty to help people better understand what’s possible and make their work accessible, and so Scott is writing a book about how AI can be a force for good for the economy in rural America.
In recent years, AI has proliferated across health care and civil society as well as governments and businesses, a fact that which could mean new duties for everyone. News and public education initiatives to help citizens understand AI are important, and technologists should make their work more accessible, but Scott also believes it’s not enough for businesses using AI to be disruptive companies.
“We have to think about how there’s balance here,” he said. “You can’t just create a bunch of tech and have it be super disruptive and not have any involvement in like, you have to create value in this world, and it can’t just be like shareholder value.”
A ‘cautiously optimistic’ view of facial recognition
One subject that has drawn much attention from average citizens and Microsoft is facial recognition software and the potential for government overreach.
On Tuesday, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) along with a coalition of human rights and other organizations called for major tech companies including Microsoft to abstain from selling facial recognition technology to governments, because doing so would inevitably lead to misuse and discrimination against religious and ethnic minority groups.
Microsoft declined to respond directly to the letter but pointed to past actions that represent its point of view. Analysis last year found facial recognition systems from Microsoft as well as Face++ in China were less capable to recognize people with dark skin, particularly women of color, at the same rates as white people. Just weeks after Microsoft made improvements to the Face API’s ability to identify people with dark skin tones, last summer, president Brad Smith declared that the government needs to regulate facial recognition software. Then last month, the company laid out six principles it will use to govern the use of facial recognition software by its customers, including law enforcement agencies and governments, such as fairness, transparency, and accountability.
Microsoft is currently on track to implement the plan on time, Scott said.
Though facial recognition software could be used for nefarious purposes by businesses and governments and can drum up fears of technologically-powered police states, Scott likes to think of the upside when it comes to facial recognition software use cases.
“There’s this fine line between where’s that boundary; there’s clearly some things that you just shouldn’t allow. Like you shouldn’t have governments using it as a mechanism of oppression. No one should be using it to discriminate illegally against people, so I think it’s a good debate to have, but I’m usually on the cautiously optimistic side of things, like I actually have faith in humanity,” he said. “I believe if you give people tools, the overwhelming majority of the uses to which they will be put are positive, and so you want to encourage that and protect against the negative in a thoughtful way.”
Potential positive use cases he cites include security in buildings, understanding who’s in a meeting, or to verify that a person handling dangerous machinery is certified to do so.
He also offered a theoretical example based on when his wife was in the hospital last year. Only two nurses were tasked with the management of a hospital recovery ward where patients were prescribed a precise regiment of ambulatory activity.
A computer vision system assigned this task could alert nursing staff if a patient was seen in common areas too often, signaling too much activity, or if they haven’t been seen out of their room, a signal of not enough activity.
In addition to a belief that understanding AI makes for more informed citizens, Scott emphasized that AI experts need to do more to tell people about the positive outcomes that can come from technology like facial recognition software.
The Terminator comes to mind often in worst-case scenarios with AI, but sharing a Star Trek vision of the future is important too, Scott said, because telling positives stories helps people grasp the possibilities.
“Folks who are deeply in the AI community need to do a better job trying to paint positive pictures for folks, like not in a Pollyanna way and not ignoring the unintended consequences and all the bad things that could be amplified by AI,” he said.
Scott’s book on AI in rural America
Scott believes a book will help expound on his point of view “that AI can and should be a beneficial thing for rural America.” A Microsoft spokesperson declined to share book title or scheduled release date details.
To write the book, Scott said he began by thinking about how to define AI for his grandfather, a former appliance repairman, farmer, and boiler room mechanic during World War II.
“I think if my granddad were alive he’d be curious about AI and part of my process is figuring out how would I explain it to him, because he wasn’t a computer scientist, and I think it’s part of your set of responsibilities these days as a tech person to try to do more of that, to make the things that you’re working on more accessible,” he said.
The book will likely draw on Scott’s experiences growing up in rural Virginia.
When asked which form of AI he believes is underestimated to have a positive impact, Scott responded with manufacturing automation in rural areas. It’s easy to imagine advanced robotics being the disruptive factor when you think of automation in manufacturing, but it can also level the playing field worldwide, making it possible to establish business anywhere.
“I have talked with dozens of both small and large companies over the past couple of years, and in every last one of these conversations the thing that I’m seeing is that automation is this sort of equalizing factor, like a piece of advanced automation that runs in Shenzhen costs about the same as it does in some little little rural town,” he said.
“That’s this thing I think people haven’t really fully wrapped their heads around, this whole agile manufacturing movement where you’ve got lots of these little small companies that are now able to make things that are repatriating jobs to the U.S. from overseas just because they’re deploying all of this automation and their unit cost of production is dropping.”